Let us continue our journey towards truth – whether hard or easy.
Did Jesus clearly ‘know about time zones’ and ‘talk about time zones’? Let’s take a look at the Bible in Matthew 24:36-42 and Luke 17:33-36 (pasted at the bottom for your convenience):
The argument against the flat earth model with these scriptures is that Jesus is ‘clearly talking about time zones’ which therefore implies that Jesus knew about time zones and therefore was heliocentric in his cosmology (that was a partial joke). I believe this argument is very weak and assumes on scripture that isn’t there because Jesus did not say ‘time zones’ or refer to them at all. The bullet points of what he is saying in these scriptures are:
- some people will be in the middle of what they are doing (sleeping, working, whatever) when it happens
- it is a unified event at one point in time
- no one knows the day or the hour
- In Matthew it doesn’t specify daylight or dark hours but calls it ‘day’ which has both light and dark hours in a 24 hour day
- In Luke it specifies both day (Luke 17:30) and then a few verses later night (verse 34)
Instead of assuming that God is talking about a globe earth time zone it would be better to assume only what is written which is that the coming of Jesus will occur while people are going about their daily lives.
In addition, when these scriptures were presented to a few people unbiased on the helio/geocentric models) around me as ‘proof for a time zone globe earth’ they immediately said “Well how do they know that the women aren’t grinding at the mill on a night shift?”
The answer is ‘we don’t’ and ‘they could have been’.
Because Jesus isn’t focused on cosmology in these scriptures but instead warning us to be ready wherever we are and in the middle of whatever we are doing.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
Plus, these scriptures work just fine on both a globe earth and a flat earth model. In the globe earth it’s a time zone but on the flat earth the sun has simply moved away so it’s dark on one part and light on the other.
Matthew 24:36-42
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two [women shall be] grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Luke 17:33-36
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
“In that night two shall be in the bed and one will be taken.. Two shall be in the field. One will be taken, two shall be grinding, one will be taken”
You argue that the women could be grinding at night! But clearly people won’t be on the field at night. When someone makes a general statement the most probable ones should be taken into account.. When I say two people would be in field it most probably mean it is a day time unless explicitly told the other way.It is mentioned that two people sleep at night..Also the ladies were grinding grain at a mill.. In the patriarchal society that existed during that times Women were not expected to be out in the night without her man.. Grinding grain was the sole duty of women.. One would not do this tideous process at night at the expense of a wooden torch wasting fuel when there was ample day light in the morning… So that might be some other time in the morning too..
Why are you making lame, stupid, baseless claims just to make you sound true??
Yes, Jesus is talking about being ready for the coming of him to defeat Satan and establish his kingdom in which he will rule over the world for 1000 years. As far as figuring out if the Bible talks about it is kind of idk like not a good source for that type of information. Everything in the Bible tells about Jesus, and even though the world was created for him in the beginning, and all things show the beauty of God, you gotta know that Jesus was talking to, and God was working with people that only knew a certain amount of detail about the world. It would seem probably scary to the people back then to be told that the world is round, and that America exists in a time where they had to walk three days with a camel to a near by city or town. I would look at some of the philosophies that the Jews believed in. That’s where you can see what they knew about. Jesus makes reference to Enoch, who was written about in Genesis, he pleased God with his faith and God translated him, so that Enoch never saw death. And I believe they also had books written by Josephus (i think). I know that the book of Enoch talks about the sun and stars making their way through gates in the sky, and maybe storehouses…. It’s been a long time since I’ve read it, but yeah. I would maybe check that out to see if it can direct some thought and building blocks about what the Jews believed in. I know that they believe in the Mazaroth, because in the book of Job God makes mention of it. I believe he talked this way because he knew what his people believed, and thought about and wanted to show them that He created all things and knows all things. If He said to Job that the Zodiacs were something….. idk.. it wouldn’t like mean anything to Job. The way God talks to his people, he like meets them where they’re at, and so I don’t think Jesus would make mention whether the earth is flat or a globe.